Board Thread:Wiki Improvements/@comment-4146635-20131207205009/@comment-5569148-20140102233600

Wow, this thread has become like a court session... Anyway... Red, Matt and DanTD have valid arguments which I think they're right (key words: I think), and other arguments that aren't as valid as I think they should be. I am not going to take a decision, of course, but I want to give out my opinion based on what I've read.

First: Yes, every page can get vanalized. Here is a funny story: An user vandalized the Austin, Ally, Trish and Dez pages a few days ago, and guess what? Nobody noticed that! I got notified about it, and I worked on it. Why do I find this funny? Because, even though those pages are one of the most important pages from this wiki, nobody knew they were vandalized. Now imagine what would happen when transcripts get vandalized?

Red Compassion, Red Love, Red Hate wrote: I mean, do you really think that some diabolical person will be like “Hahaha, I’m going to mess up the transcripts everyday so the whole wiki is screwed over!!!! Yeah, no. SO it’s not going to be as often as you make it out to be. ”

Diabolical? Really? There's no need to be "diavolical" in order to "mess up" with a page... I agree with the fact the problem won't occour very often, because I'm 90% sure most of the users don't know about the existence of transcripts... So the chances of those pages getting vandalized are like... 2 out of 10. BUT there ARE users who THINK about "screw the whole wiki". I've seen it with my eyes, I've seen users messing up with pages just because they don't like the show! So YES, that COULD happen, but once again... They don't need to be "diabolical" in order to do that.

Jessie1010 wrote: Admins/rollbacks can be in charge of a transcript search thingy. Whenever a transcript is finished, two admins/rollbacks are assigned to check it over and make sure it is pitch perfect...

I know you will think I'm being selfish, or I'm not trying to work harder for the wiki... I would like to help out with transcripts, but what's the problem? I do NOT have access to full episodes. I know you're concerned about the fact English is not my native language, so even though I had access to full episodes, it'd be really difficult for me to work on them. (And if you aren't a native English speaker and you're thinking "dude, I can do it, why can't you? Here's why) In case you haven't noticed, I'm not the best on expressing what I think... Where am I going with this? I have lots of lacks in English. I haven't learned enough yet, and as I've experienced in other wikis, with me being the only one with access of all the information from the TV show, I find it really difficult to write down in English. You might be thinking: "But dude, you're doing it right now" Yes, I am doing it right now, but writing down something that takes you 5 minutes, takes me 3 times more, and I'm going to get back to school pretty soon, so I'm 100% sure I won't be able to work on them, even if I want to. (I know that part might bring more arguments, but I do really needed to let that out).

I'm not saying "GUYS DELETE ALL THE TRANSCRIPTS BECAUSE I CAN'T HELP OUT WITH THEM. IF I CAN'T HELP OUT, THEY'RE USELESS". I want to emphasize this part again: two admins/rollbacks are assigned to check it over and make sure it is pitch perfect. I find it really difficult for admins to keep an eye on those pages. Can we do it? Yes, we can, but let's be honest: We even find it difficult to keep an eye on the pages we got assigned!

Sorry if you don't really get what I've tried to express with that, but once again, I already mentioned how I find difficult to say what I think...

Red Compassion, Red Love, Red Hate wrote: I agree with your solutions, it make take some time, but doesn’t everything? Just because it poses a little risk and may increase the amount of stub articles (we already have about 30, and none of those are gone/finished) but I don’t think that just getting rid of them would really do anything other than erasing work that other people (DanTD, mainly) took time to work on. Erasing DanTD's work would be... I don't even know how to say it. I completely agree with you with that, but as Matt stated, we don't have many DanTDs on the wiki... Transcripts aren't harmful at all, but not every user is interested in them. That doesn't mean just because users aren't interested in them they need to get deleted, of course, but so far, I don't think we will be able to find a way to get them improved/updated faster...

So far, those are the most important opinions I wanted to state. If I have contradicted myself at some point is because I have mixed feelings about this problem, but that's what I think: I am going from "Support" to "Neutral", because transcripts have their Pros and their Cons (sorry if I didn't spell that correctly...)